{"id":1515,"date":"2015-09-01T13:31:36","date_gmt":"2015-09-01T11:31:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/corenesa.com\/?p=1515"},"modified":"2025-07-07T23:52:03","modified_gmt":"2025-07-07T21:52:03","slug":"everybody-and-every-body-can-dance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/corenesa.com\/en\/interview\/everybody-and-every-body-can-dance\/","title":{"rendered":"Everybody and every body can dance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Interviewed by <a href=\"https:\/\/issuu.com\/refreshmarketing\/docs\/refresh_your_life_-_broj_07_-_septe\">Refresh Your Life<\/a> e-magazine<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Enesa Mahi\u0107 is a body-oriented psychotherapist and an accredited teacher of the 5Rhythms dance method. She spent the last ten years exploring the interconnectedness of body and psyche, using\u00a0body-oriented psychotherapy, 5Rhythms and trauma work. I met her in Belgrade a few months ago, during her Eros&amp;Heart workshop. When she guides you, you\u00a0can never predict where and how will the dance process develop\u00a0and how far you\u00a0will go.\u00a0\u00a0Her workshops are primarily a laboratory for exploration where it&#8217;s not music that&#8217;s important, but the inner impulse that every dancer has\u00a0inside\u00a0(even though the music supports the dance). This captivating\u00a0woman\u00a0believes that dance is not limited\u00a0only\u00a0to\u00a0stage and performances, but that you can also dance while you cook or make yourself a cup of coffee.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cEvery person&#8217;s rhythm is like a\u00a0fingerprint. The way people move is the way they exist. Since we are complex creatures, we can mix ourselves into an intense blend\u00a0of different rhythms such as\u00a0flowing\/chaos, lyrical\/staccato, stillness\/chaos or any other combination.\u201d <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Gabrielle Roth, founder of the 5Rhythms dance<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is the 5Rhythms method for you and when did you start practicing it?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I met Gabrielle Roth&#8217;s 5Rhythms at the end of 90s and for me this is one of the simplest and deepest maps for self-awareness that I&#8217;ve ever experienced. It&#8217;s a free-form dance practice that has a very clear frame, which is still big enough to avoid any dogma; it&#8217;s an optimal combination of deep work and fun: practice that shakes your body, creating tectonic changes in your body and heart; it&#8217;s a portal\u00a0to the state in which no part of me exists separated from the others.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How do we dance our way\u00a0to our center?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dance\u00a0itself is not a\u00a0guarantee\u00a0we will acquire any self-knowledge &#8211;\u00a0our\u00a0intention behind the dance\u00a0is absolutely crucial.\u00a0Every person steps on the dancefloor with a different goal: some people see dance as a form of fitness, some people are looking for a bit of flirting,\u00a0some people crave emotional catharsis, for others the dancefloor is a place of ecstasy and awareness.\u00a0I believe that intention determines the direction of everything we do &#8211; be it meal preparation, love making or a conversation\u00a0with someone who scares us; all those things can be a path\u00a0to our core if we approach them as we would approach a spiritual practice. \u00a05Rhythms dance\u00a0is a practice that communicates\u00a0equally with your body, emotions, mind, soul and spirit.\u00a0This dance without form confronts you\u00a0with what is really happening inside, it melts your masks and shatters your opinions, supports\u00a0you to let go of control and rigidity in your body, heart and mind. It confronts us with everything we don&#8217;t want to admit to be and to release everything we&#8217;re not.\u00a0It teaches us to learn how to laugh about\u00a0our blind identification with fragments of ourselves.\u00a0And if I&#8217;m\u00a0fortunate enough and I\u00a0dance long enough and deep enough, I\u00a0might receive the gift of surrendering to the dance that&#8217;s larger than me, moments in which I&#8217;m not dancing, I&#8217;m being danced.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is it easy to understand what determines us, who are WE?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If I&#8217;m looking for the ultimate answer to that question, it&#8217;s not easy at all.<\/p>\n<p>If I focus on who I am HERE and NOW, and I accept that I&#8217;ll probably never receive the complete answer, it becomes a bit easier.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who is\u00a0Enesa Mahi\u0107? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are many fragments I could identify with: I&#8217;m a patient mother, passionate dancer, a traveller deeply in love with world and nature, a therapist full of gratitude for every opportunity to grow&#8230; At the same time, I am selfish, lazy, cold, harsh&#8230; Both sides are equally true and both sides are only\u00a0superficial\u00a0parts of me. In the rare moments, I&#8217;ve been given to feel that beyond this body and my personal history there is a non-I which is pure rhythm, energy and pulsation, state of no ego. But ego does make sure I soon go back to the black and white stories \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>As Walt Whitman, one of my favourite poets said: \u201cDo I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What&#8217;s your natural state &#8211; DANCE or STILLNESS? Or is\u00a0that the same thing?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A body that&#8217;s alive is never really still &#8211; from the moment we&#8217;re born until the moment we die, we&#8217;re continuously breathing, our hearts beats incessantly for decades, our cells are always regenerating, our bowels are digesting, fluids flow through our bodies, our mind jumps from one thought to the other, emotions come and go&#8230; Only the rhythm changes &#8211; sometimes we&#8217;re calmer and more instrospective, sometimes we&#8217;re more intense and forceful but the dance is always present. Surrendering to that change of rhythm and leaving the known and safe behind, is a skill we need to learn.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>When you dive into yourself during the dance, do you become aware of the best\/worst part of you?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t believe in the separation of good and bad parts. Human beings are so obsessed with grades and choices: good\/bad, body\/spirit, expression\/introspection, us\/them&#8230; Certain practices tell you that you need to actively work on transforming your negativity, the others claim it&#8217;s enough to accept yourself with all your flaws. What I&#8217;m always interested in the work I do is WHY are we the way we are. Imaginary ideals don&#8217;t interest me.<\/p>\n<p>For example, if during the dance workshop I avoid contact with others, it&#8217;s pointless to put a good\/bad grade on it (I&#8217;m bad because I should be open to others \/\u00a0I&#8217;m good because it shows that I don&#8217;t need anyone). The real question is WHY does my dance go in that direction. Why are we cruel, why are we generous, why are we kind, why are we lying&#8230;?\u00a0\u00a0In my experience, when I look at\u00a0my so-called worst parts in that way, with a deep interest, I usually discover that there is a true\u00a0pain behind them\u00a0and healing that pain creates spontaneous change of negative behaviour. Dance is my\u00a0shortcut to truth, a mirror for my true Self and a sign showing me in which\u00a0direction lies my\u00a0transformation &#8211; usually the transformation is\u00a0where\u00a0I really don&#8217;t feel like going \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>When I say 5Rhythms, which rhythm is\u00a0the first one that comes to your mind: flowing, staccato, chaos, lyrical\u00a0or\u00a0stillness?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When I hear\u00a05Rhythms, I always think of the Wave, an entire sequence of all the five\u00a0rhythms. Every rhythm teaches me something and I wouldn&#8217;t be complete if some of them were missing.\u00a0Holding on to my preferred\u00a0rhythm actually creates imbalance, just like a beautiful permanent summer\u00a0\u00a0would in the end create drought and destruction. Ego loves firm definitions and doesn&#8217;t like to be stretched &#8211; that&#8217;s why we have the Wave, a perfect stretching\u00a0for every part of our Self.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Could a dancer in your workshop\u00a0become aware of who he\/she truly\u00a0is?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>5Rhythms are a practice and practice means that we are willing to keep on showing up on the dancefloor, year after year, with a beginner&#8217;s mind. One workshop is certainly not enough if our ultimate goal is self-awareness. Every workshop can show us a little piece of who we are, but it&#8217;s pointless to identify yourself with a tiny part of the larger picture.\u00a0Pema Ch\u00f6dron wrote:\u00a0<em>\u201cOnly to the extent that we expose ourselves to annihilation can that which is indestructible in us be found.\u201d<\/em>\u00a0To me, that&#8217;s the essence of any psychological or spiritual practice.<\/p>\n<p>My suggestion would be to try the 5Rhythms dance and if it touches you, stay with the regular practice for a while and see what happens. 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